Wow. That was fun.
My boss is a True Christian. I hadn't been aware she was religious at all until some weeks back. We'd been working together for a few months, and somebody else happened to bring up a meeting they'd been in, where my boss (let's call her Iris) had got quite upset at a casual joke someone else had told, because she'd found it religiously offensive. Religion had never come up in office conversation before in any form, so I guessed she was just at the tolerant and unpreachy end of the scale, but it sounded like she still took it fairly seriously, so I was curious as to whether it would ever come up more directly.
I'm leaving work at the end of this week. I very nearly missed it.
Nobody came to blows or anything, but it seemed like it was getting pretty heated for a while there. The clerk from the Tribunal (let's call her Myfanwy) was in today, and the hearings weren't too complicated to prepare and set going, which means Myfanwy was left hanging around in our office without much to do for most of the afternoon. It was a quiet day, so we didn't have much to do either. So they were chattering away about stuff, I was playing
Kingdom of Loathing, and all was right with the world.
I missed the conversational detour that took them onto religion, but I think any discussion between two Christians, about Christianity, when it's something very important to both of them but they have ever-so-slightly different ideas of what it means, has the potential to be enthrallingly explosive.
All it really amounted to is that Myfanwy doesn't always follow God's law, in such matters as drinking to excess, but Iris knows that there are no half-measures when it comes to Jesus. You're either following his path, or you're not. These aren't her standards, they're God's standards. She's not religious; she has a personal relationship with Christ. We're just not Saved.
I could say something sarcastic about how good it is to see an original and evocative thinker expounding on such unexplored topics, but I can't entirely claim the higher ground here. I was thoroughly enjoying my role as spectator for about twenty minutes, but couldn't resist injecting myself into the discussion when she gave me such a perfect opener:
Iris: ... but, I don't really know anyone who doesn't believe in
anything, who's just a complete atheist...
Me: *waves* Hello!
That was fun to do, but did rather put me under the spotlight. And although I like to think I can support my convictions on any subject that's important to me pretty solidly, given half an hour with a keyboard, a text editor, and Google, those of you familiar with my boisterous, lively personality may guess that I'm not so hot with the spontaneous debate.
So yeah, turns out as well as being the only white and/or male in the office, I'm the only one who subscribes to the theory of evolution. And did a fairly lame job defending it when questioned. Nobody was giving me the third degree or anything, I just fluster under pressure, take my time finding words, fail to build up any rhetorical momentum, and sound very unconvincing. I could've offered to elaborate my views later in a reasoned and properly considered essay, but meh. I
could do that, and have done for various people before, so I know the foundation of my worldview isn't quite as shaky as it probably seemed.
But I sort of want to, in a way. It'd be nice if I could see Iris actually starting to understand what evolution
is, and why her other deeply original thoughts - that it takes more faith to believe in evolution than in God, that the world seems so complex that it couldn't have come about by chance, that surely we should be evolving into something else by now - don't actually do as much to undermine it as she thinks. I had a fair stab at it, but these three together (let's-call-her-Frida was around too, chipping in with a less passionate and slightly more moderate view from time to time) were all talking over each other and managing to keep a rigorous debate going with hardly a pause for breath, even without me, and butting in has never been a strong point of mine.
So, meh. Not the most productive dialogue I've ever engaged in, but they're all basically good people, and just talking about their own values, so it was definitely on the entertaining side of head-deskery.
And they've moved on now. They're currently talking about a TV show apparently called
Sister Sister. Doesn't sound very holy.
And as an addendum, after I'd typed all this up, I noticed I'd been humming something without really noticing, and after a few moments recognised it as shortlived Italian dance-pop outfit Eiffel 65's minor hit,
Too Much Of Heaven. My brain is cryptic in its instructions, but I think it wants me to shut up about this now.